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namm1, your personal beef with another player (I can't think of another explanation for this obsession) has no place in this forum. Please refrain from spamming about this any further.

You're not really good at listening, now are you?

adrian10032003 wrote:

So this track got basically a dedi setback only leaving Dedi 1 (which already was set 9 days ago) altho dedi 2-30 were legit. People hunted there for 10 hours to get dedis and all records, besides the ones which stood before the hunt, were wiped.

So my question is why?

This is the track: https://tmnf.exchange/trackshow/10014613

In the past two days, all entries except #1 had been superseded by a cheater using nearly 30 different logins with the same pattern. Deleting those and reverting to the state of Dec 20 was the only solution.

It's something that happened once before on another track.

Chin up, try again.

I've been in your boots before, just re-drive times and carry on, it will make whoever made 30 accounts and went through the process of cheating look like an idiot for wasting their time.

adrian10032003 wrote:

Thats not what i am trying to say sorry for not expressing myself clearly. The 29 records that got removed called cheated are in fact not cheated. I have all 29 replays collected now and i can send them. They all have different start inputs and are all driven on competitive patch... they were all driven by humans.

You've misunderstood Xymph, someone created 30 accounts and cheated with them online, which caused the top30 to be wiped when they were all removed.

It's not those people who you think that cheated, but someone else created 30 new accounts with the sole purpose to wipe out the top30 apparently.

But... why? It's not really sportsmanship to make new accounts to spam dedis either with alternative accounts.

adrian10032003 wrote:

Nono i didn´t missunderstand him.. we were those 29 accounts.. named us from uluruuuxxx1-uluruuxxxx29. We set those times that preocupied dedi.

That is unacceptable, because indistinguishable from cheating and/or vandalism. Do no create new accounts solely for this purpose (which are all banned, btw). If you had used your normal accounts that are used on many other tracks, it wouldn't have set off alarm bells, or resulted in (much) action on my part.

And even then, as vrbnjak notes, it is somewhat unsportsmanlike to block out the entire records list of a track in a orchestrated way. But if they are truly different accounts by different players, then it is not a problem.

adrian10032003 wrote:

We got the idea from another group that also did that on five different tracks, with the same scheme, so we thought its fine and accepted, as they didn't get removed and their records stand till this day. We checked also the forum and we didn't find a rule that pointed out, that this is forbidden, so we thought we might just do it as a project.

It's not a formal published rule, but not all things that are frowned upon or are crossing borders, are formalized.

Of course now you made me curious about those five tracks, but I guess they put enough variance in logins/nicknames to not trigger detection.

adrian10032003 wrote:

I wanted to ask if it’s possible to get the record added afterwards to the database or if this is generally not done.

This is technically too hard and never done.

adrian10032003 wrote:

Hey there, some people of my clan got 1 to 8records removed without doing anything to my knowledge that would justify it, one of them got more than a hundred records removed. His login is: mytm10
I want to ask what the reason for removing all these records was and if it’s possible to restore them in case it was a mistake. Also wondering why all these records got deleted around the same time.

Three or more identical nicks on a track leads to monopolizing, and get pruned periodically. Use unique nicks to keep unique recs.

adrian10032003 wrote:

Okay I understand but why did this one particular guy got all his records removed for that? We are playing an internal war with the clan with 3 different teams and while they all had the same team tag they were all coloured differently in their colours they usually are coloured with to distinct them. I personally think it’s unfair that the one person got all their records removed for just that, not even breaking a particular rule. I understand that the single records on the tracks where they got it with the same name got removed but all? Seems harsh and unfair to me

mytm10 did not get all records removed, has 3085 in the database: http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
The pruning script keeps only the top entry of the identical nicks, but of course strips off any formatting tags first. If one identical nick got pruned more than the others, it was slower on more tracks.

psykolist wrote:

Hey someone have an idea why my Dedi only shows up on the Server where i drove it ?
It is a really really sick Dedi 2 which from 3 Servern only on the Server show up in Dedis where i drove it... ?...

Since nobody is clairvoyant... nope.