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#1873 2024-02-07 21:15:10

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hey,

Login: _000x_002x_005s_007e_00ar
UID: zipXa4z2WWI25VZCkGdkVv_wuz2
+ especially thQNLwSVo9rZXpe3O59bgvmX0Q4

Login: _c30_923_626_319_00c_00c
UID: WTVJe6VCtZpO26BnblnSnUwtR4d

Besides the similar stupid names, they also share the same IP, I assume it's the same person.

Edit: Remembered a screenshot for 2nd login for validating ingame: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … fee6b&

Last edited by rawrdragon (2024-02-07 21:36:58)

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#1874 2024-02-08 02:36:49

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello again,

Login: mrvlt
UID: DyB1YW6B7Xy_f7tHQLY8K2LjIyl

We tried several things and feel there is no way to gain that much time after last CP to finish.
Some of his other 29 times on other tracks also look suspicious.
I do not have the IP address of this player, it has been last online a year ago, so I cannot compare if it might even be the same dude as above.

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#1875 2024-02-08 13:36:14

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Hey,

Login: _000x_002x_005s_007e_00ar
UID: zipXa4z2WWI25VZCkGdkVv_wuz2
+ especially thQNLwSVo9rZXpe3O59bgvmX0Q4

Login: _c30_923_626_319_00c_00c
UID: WTVJe6VCtZpO26BnblnSnUwtR4d

Both banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1876 2024-02-08 13:53:11

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login: mrvlt
UID: DyB1YW6B7Xy_f7tHQLY8K2LjIyl

We tried several things and feel there is no way to gain that much time after last CP to finish.
Some of his other 29 times on other tracks also look suspicious.

Found three more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1877 2024-02-11 09:44:52

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

edition.23
6CVRs_UjGdgeTq0MufHSfQtCJ4

like my last report, 0.07 faster on a hunted map with no cut possible
only dedirecord of this guy (from 2010 even), im not buying that

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#1878 2024-02-11 22:03:57

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

edition.23
6CVRs_UjGdgeTq0MufHSfQtCJ4

like my last report, 0.07 faster on a hunted map with no cut possible
only dedirecord of this guy (from 2010 even), im not buying that

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1879 2024-02-20 21:12:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I say hello again,

Login: irgomoa
UID: dshCi0VuXKuK37TZ21Ml0VBmYbb

Login: vicehash
UID: KLXtWdJepRy2Ae2DtsZBLxDz22l

vicehash's CPs are off for the good result by quite much. Additionally the end after last LP is literally either a short rel + noslide left turn or drift left turn, there is no way to gain that much time from last CP to fin.
All other dedis with this exact last CP time are at least 0.2 slower for their finish times.
Both accounts share the same IP, that's why I even noticed the 2nd one.

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#1880 2024-02-21 09:36:00

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login: irgomoa
UID: dshCi0VuXKuK37TZ21Ml0VBmYbb

Login: vicehash
UID: KLXtWdJepRy2Ae2DtsZBLxDz22l

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1881 2024-02-21 18:59:08

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Here we go again,

Login: htamd
UID: ShcTiC1iTXp_2ZbOTkt2x5ZnyCa

Impossible CPs 2-4.

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#1882 2024-02-21 19:57:16

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login: htamd
UID: ShcTiC1iTXp_2ZbOTkt2x5ZnyCa

Impossible CPs 2-4.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1883 2024-02-22 15:36:21

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

hi, I found at least 4 strange records from this player. I think he has more of them, I didn't watch all the records.

On the track cVJ_4NFWgDoua1v6sXCuD8fuoD1, he has checkpoints 3-23.99 4-26.33, while the second place has the same checkpoints 24.39 and 26.81, there is definitely nowhere to cut there

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

login - flamar

UID: liTKZFld3VVzqnpnFn6sqls3DEh
UID: 9_oog509uVFmoaIgLEZ7crOE8n3
UID: MxPCfePupLyqqNCUIcVTx44xyyc
UID: cVJ_4NFWgDoua1v6sXCuD8fuoD1

Last edited by drag100500 (2024-02-22 15:38:12)

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#1884 2024-02-22 23:59:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

drag100500 wrote:

hi, I found at least 4 strange records from this player. I think he has more of them, I didn't watch all the records.

On the track cVJ_4NFWgDoua1v6sXCuD8fuoD1, he has checkpoints 3-23.99 4-26.33, while the second place has the same checkpoints 24.39 and 26.81, there is definitely nowhere to cut there

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

login - flamar

UID: liTKZFld3VVzqnpnFn6sqls3DEh
UID: 9_oog509uVFmoaIgLEZ7crOE8n3
UID: MxPCfePupLyqqNCUIcVTx44xyyc
UID: cVJ_4NFWgDoua1v6sXCuD8fuoD1

Found two dozen in total. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1885 2024-03-07 21:04:47

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello,

the guy I reported multiple times for cheating has a new account. Same IP, same region.

Login: inampros
UID: KLXtWdJepRy2Ae2DtsZBLxDz22l

And probably 21 other maps.

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#1886 2024-03-08 11:41:48

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

the guy I reported multiple times for cheating has a new account. Same IP, same region.

Login: inampros
UID: KLXtWdJepRy2Ae2DtsZBLxDz22l

And probably 21 other maps.

Found two more. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1887 2024-04-12 12:45:39

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hey,

Login: schlauchi24
UID: KOmWptDLppAOHbhWjOfCuqoTFdc

Looks to be the old "I don't care about grass" cheat.

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#1888 2024-04-13 17:36:23

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login: schlauchi24
UID: KOmWptDLppAOHbhWjOfCuqoTFdc

Looks to be the old "I don't care about grass" cheat.

Re-read the reporting rules (again...), especially 1a.

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#1889 2024-04-13 21:53:30

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

I apologize if it had been deleted by now. I made sure it was still in the dedi list before I reported it, as I just got told there was a cheater on the server last night.

Last edited by rawrdragon (2024-04-13 22:19:22)

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#1890 2024-05-08 19:51:06

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

this guy has some impossible sectors on various lolsports maps:

login: papasouza5
UID: 99DRNd_CggFNWWOuqRNgIJD6HSc
UID: eZVbD7VCEHlcRiB_1Xc0on5o253

Those maps are just too short for them to have some weird cut.
Dunno about the other times they drove.

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#1891 2024-05-09 14:52:32

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

the_tracker__ wrote:

this guy has some impossible sectors on various lolsports maps:

login: papasouza5
UID: 99DRNd_CggFNWWOuqRNgIJD6HSc
UID: eZVbD7VCEHlcRiB_1Xc0on5o253

Those maps are just too short for them to have some weird cut.
Dunno about the other times they drove.

Found a few dozen more among their top-5 entries, and didn't investigate further. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1892 2024-05-31 15:40:44

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello,

Login:  lehamster
UIDs: k8SOMWLG03KUhuNuu0lCq7TU9q2, za7uMrNOSnswN7gXh3zvqKwDo58

Another account of the same cheater I reported several times in older posts...

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#1893 2024-05-31 23:29:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login:  lehamster
UIDs: k8SOMWLG03KUhuNuu0lCq7TU9q2, za7uMrNOSnswN7gXh3zvqKwDo58

Another account of the same cheater I reported several times in older posts...

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1894 2024-06-21 16:37:42

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hi,

Login: _shivapx
UID: zKfkOTm9Fx7KkgTRAoQonei1vU

Rounds dedi 1 has impossible CP2 onwards. There is nothing to gain speed between CP1 and CP2; a looping that's uncuttable and even if it was, you'd miss boost. The wallride cannot be cut either. You cannot escape anywhere because you're locked in by plates.
TA dedi 1 has 18.18 as the only one to be below 18.20. There is no way for 17.85, while keeping all speed until the end.

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#1895 2024-06-21 20:21:26

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

Login: _shivapx
UID: zKfkOTm9Fx7KkgTRAoQonei1vU

Rounds dedi 1 has impossible CP2 onwards. There is nothing to gain speed between CP1 and CP2; a looping that's uncuttable and even if it was, you'd miss boost. The wallride cannot be cut either. You cannot escape anywhere because you're locked in by plates.
TA dedi 1 has 18.18 as the only one to be below 18.20. There is no way for 17.85, while keeping all speed until the end.

Right. And two days later, what do you think of QbHzsBIfIUnW0JcCzopI8Qyy7l0 and wVgqzClETF2xz6quU1EYcbsBJYj ?

Those were the only other #1 entries I found suspect, but I didn't scan all the 5500+ other entries...

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#1896 2024-06-21 21:14:19

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I checked wVgqzClETF2xz6quU1EYcbsBJYj, it's absolutely the same pattern. Slower at CP1, randomly faster at CP2 with no way out and carrying overspeed (gaining like 0.2 on a 3s straight between 2 CPs) until last CP, where then a big chunk of time is lost until finish, even though the maps are fs until the end.
I cannot find any map for QbHzsBIfIUnW0JcCzopI8Qyy7l0, so that one's probably lost. We'll check some more and see and I will update this post later.

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#1897 2024-06-21 22:06:56

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

rawrdragon wrote:

I cannot find any map for QbHzsBIfIUnW0JcCzopI8Qyy7l0, so that one's probably lost.

https://nations.tm-exchange.com/trackshow/7093

Use https://www.xaseco.org/uidfinder.php for future cases.

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#1898 2024-06-21 23:32:05

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Thank you for the uidfinder, I wasn't aware that this exists. Funnily enough, all tracks we checked but this one are not on TMX. Oh well.

We found a server the map QbHzsBIfIUnW0JcCzopI8Qyy7l0 and others run on and juked the tracks. It is another case where it's literally fullspeed street start with 3 blocks grass right before the CP, and they are 0.3 ahead after 9s, just to lose it all at the end.
Another map with impossible CP2 (they have 12.60, fastest in dedis is 12.68) onwards until last CP is S0JiXuPcRAvdpuvLjH8M46i1Rh. Start onto platform, downhill, turnover. No way to cut or catch more boost. Even the known sd pros are 0.3 behind at times while being close together themselves, time is of course all lost in the last CP (all fs), so I say it's not possible.

I was about to post some questionable stuff and say that a few tracks had cuts we could confirm and beat.
But the longer we spent time to look at times in the dedis, the more suspect stuff we find.

On gKc0id52SU8R42o_OHK6MdeQtE8 he is far ahead at CP1 (10.59), you can do a rampflip over the fence at the start and end, but even a perfect one before the multilap start to carry more speed yields a 10.9x, with sacreficing exit speed maybe 10.8x. All other dedis have 11.2x or high 11.1x. He even gains more time from CP to finish, it's one open, flat dirt turn. We tried rampflips en masse and couldn't ever gain that much in any case.

I don't think I ever spent 4h+ to try and find proof for cheating... there goes the evening.

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