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#1197 2017-01-29 15:02:20

Vrba
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID: a3YeE4DjhE5pypG7c3KCz8fiPF9
Login: hittlerfriend

Impossible end sector + super idiotic login. neutral

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#1198 2017-01-29 21:24:52

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UID: a3YeE4DjhE5pypG7c3KCz8fiPF9
Login: hittlerfriend

Impossible end sector + super idiotic login. neutral

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1199 2017-02-03 21:29:30

?????irtuaL #mot
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Hello Xymph, I'd like to report one of my own records, and ask that you remove it from Dedimania.

UID: 8yVBNzCFJbDUW6ogwu2JPPm7gmh
Login: nivyo

I drove the record using TM Unlimiter, not knowing it would give me such an advantage in the start.
I am sorry about this, and it won't happen again.

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#1200 2017-02-03 23:09:01

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

nivyo wrote:

Hello Xymph, I'd like to report one of my own records, and ask that you remove it from Dedimania.

UID: 8yVBNzCFJbDUW6ogwu2JPPm7gmh
Login: nivyo

I drove the record using TM Unlimiter, not knowing it would give me such an advantage in the start.
I am sorry about this, and it won't happen again.

Poof.

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#1201 2017-02-03 23:33:09

?????irtuaL #mot
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

I have now improved my time to a 10:34.66 (Previously 11:04.38) on 8yVBNzCFJbDUW6ogwu2JPPm7gmh, without using TM Unlimiter. The replay is now uploaded to tmx if you want to watch it, or validate it. I am sorry about this incident, I wasn't aware of the advantage it gave me, and am truly sorry for it.

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#1202 2017-02-04 18:40:49

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID : faUGtHP0bM_JFcKxrFcQWm9rZ1e
Login : hasses123

Time and sectors look impossible

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#1203 2017-02-05 15:28:58

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

UID : faUGtHP0bM_JFcKxrFcQWm9rZ1e
Login : hasses123

Time and sectors look impossible

And several more entries. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1204 2017-02-07 02:08:03

ua.zero?viN! <7
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

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#1205 2017-02-07 09:56:53

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

vin_10 wrote:

https://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx?action=trackshow&id=2312
Nadeo B11 Race
dedi1

Happened yesterday. Please read the reporting rules before posting, especially 1a.

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#1206 2017-02-07 23:40:57

ua.zero?viN! <7
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

vin_10 wrote:

https://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx?action=trackshow&id=2312
Nadeo B11 Race
dedi1

Happened yesterday. Please read the reporting rules before posting, especially 1a.

cool,but I'm not a psychic to find out when it was staged


sorry.

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#1207 2017-02-08 10:08:33

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

vin_10 wrote:

xymph wrote:

Happened yesterday. Please read the reporting rules before posting, especially 1a.

cool,but I'm not a psychic to find out when it was staged

Don't need to be, just look it up: go to TMStats, find the track by name, author and/or UId (e.g. this), and all record dates are listed.
That TMStats link in a report is better than a TMX link anyway.

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#1208 2017-02-12 00:15:12

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID : SqnMPr0jIBTP3cGBBurpQ_9z0Qg
Login : ___________47

Second sector doesn't look possible, like the record, i don't know if it's enough.. but in my opinion he cheated, i could be wrong, i don't know.

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#1209 2017-02-12 05:13:08

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

mSM9VtGafSVdkpFWuy3s3pCXx4f               speed booster after u-turn (replay available)
ksluc_0WATZzJaD1QHzHdWZQqmg              too fast cp1.

login: julianwa

Abnormal speed boosts after u-turns, starts accelerated.
Top dedi each on first play.

banned locally already, but perhaps check times. 

Thank you in advance,...an honest server.

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#1210 2017-02-12 11:00:46

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

UID : SqnMPr0jIBTP3cGBBurpQ_9z0Qg
Login : ___________47

Second sector doesn't look possible, like the record, i don't know if it's enough.. but in my opinion he cheated, i could be wrong, i don't know.

Second sector is the same as all other entries. Third sector is 0.2s faster than the others, which isn't much on a 11.6-11.7 total. And the login's three other entries look fine. So I don't know either. Anyone else got an opinion?

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#1211 2017-02-12 11:13:36

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

microkiller wrote:

mSM9VtGafSVdkpFWuy3s3pCXx4f               speed booster after u-turn (replay available)

Where?

microkiller wrote:

ksluc_0WATZzJaD1QHzHdWZQqmg              too fast cp1.

login: julianwa

Abnormal speed boosts after u-turns, starts accelerated.
Top dedi each on first play.

The tracks are not available on TMX, so I can't check anything. But for now I see nothing suspicious among this login's entries since Jan 1.

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#1212 2017-02-13 00:59:44

Adrien
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Indeed, sorry i meant third sector : he has 11.46, the second dedi record has 11.63, whereas the third sector average of the 30 records is about 11.75 and the standard deviation of these sectors is 0.09 so 11.46 doesn't look legit compared to 11.66 (11.75 - 0.09).
Just saying that the 29 records are very close to each other, and having played the map, and watched the world record's replay, i don't find any way to be so faster. Maybe a direct jump to the finish, but to have such speed you need to take a way wider U-Turn, which makes lose more time than the direct jump would allow to save.
I guess it doesn't bring much more, but i just wanted to say why i think he cheated.

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#1213 2017-02-13 11:50:52

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

Indeed, sorry i meant third sector : he has 11.46, the second dedi record has 11.63, whereas the third sector average of the 30 records is about 11.75 and the standard deviation of these sectors is 0.09 so 11.46 doesn't look legit compared to 11.66 (11.75 - 0.09).
Just saying that the 29 records are very close to each other, and having played the map, and watched the world record's replay, i don't find any way to be so faster. Maybe a direct jump to the finish, but to have such speed you need to take a way wider U-Turn, which makes lose more time than the direct jump would allow to save.
I guess it doesn't bring much more, but i just wanted to say why i think he cheated.

Ok, housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1214 2017-02-23 21:35:53

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

login: _f00c_a05a_50ar_00fl

UID: oTXSCAC61e_HxVTkuhEAeyRTDT8
UID: mhlAfUouZMXW3VDq0s1Drc14QI8

saw him use the speedhack with my own eyes
I'm suspicious about most of his other recs as well

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#1215 2017-02-24 09:35:41

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

tm2:razorrules wrote:

login: _f00c_a05a_50ar_00fl

UID: oTXSCAC61e_HxVTkuhEAeyRTDT8
UID: mhlAfUouZMXW3VDq0s1Drc14QI8

saw him use the speedhack with my own eyes
I'm suspicious about most of his other recs as well

Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#1216 2017-03-07 22:44:09

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

VcwDjuDu9FScXRPIGjlyQjP7QFd
leichenfaust

this record is suspicious in my opinion

6790,12920,13310,14970,18650,23710,24620,28890,29890,35110
6740,12860,13230,14890,18570,23710,24620,28850,29850,35130
6740,12860,13230,14890,18570,23710,24620,28850,29850,35130

this is dedi 2-4 (every other dedi has the same pattern), and now his:
6810,12610,12960,14500,17910,22760,23640,27800,28780,34480

map is not on TMX, but its playable on GRT Sweet Sexy in Germany/Northrhine/Dortmund
i dont see a way for such a huge gain between 1st and second cp.

5OfhecnYsT7HZTp99awRsNqNzu6

no CP or 1cp tracks, but if u play them u cant really see how u get it, i also talked with some players better than me tongue and they agreed the times look fishy

8jRXHaVhn06ybWSNbKF1cWhQUvf (big difference)
uNyFxbMr2tKmpiTc7S05UiuFmX (big difference)
y_QZo0xVgTIqpHRM3szCQVPROVk (here also 1st dedi with login hunnexus, has basically the same time but only 2 dedis in his entire history, makes his dedi even more suspicious)


wb1NGZVGVarsboZ_rZGEMW0P6lc
This one im not sure, very fast again but the track is very stupid, cant rule it out to be possible on this one


maybe u can check it out, cheers and good work on here

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#1217 2017-03-08 09:41:20

Xymph
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

leichenfaust

Banned and all deleted, thanks. Some collateral damage cleaned up too.

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#1218 2017-03-08 13:41:50

??? » yoy0
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

xymph wrote:

yoy0 wrote:

leichenfaust

Banned and all deleted, thanks. Some collateral damage cleaned up too.

sorry if this is too off topic, but if u dont mind I like to ask what the collateral damage is? Thanks in advance

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#1219 2017-03-08 15:09:18

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

yoy0 wrote:

sorry if this is too off topic, but if u dont mind I like to ask what the collateral damage is? Thanks in advance

Other logins going on the warning list.

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#1220 2017-03-11 20:08:55

Adrien
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

Login : mekolipo
UID : N4G1xeOetgqJZTNqqMTC3HV8k3g

Second sector impossible since it's a fullspeed map, there is no loop to cut, nothing to cut, no trick possible that would make save so much time.

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#1221 2017-03-11 21:09:22

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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

adrigav wrote:

Login : mekolipo
UID : N4G1xeOetgqJZTNqqMTC3HV8k3g

Second sector impossible since it's a fullspeed map, there is no loop to cut, nothing to cut, no trick possible that would make save so much time.

Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#1222 2017-03-15 18:32:23

Adrien
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Re: Report strange & suspect TMF records here

UID : GX9Fe4uXgjGGbCJlLP3_zyE2NM0
Login : swatbum
Login : juaneldiablo

I think a "bug" happened or something like that: their first sector is almost the same and both are impossible, there is just a checkpoint under the start but you can't take it so fast. Their sectors before the last one is very strange because there is no way to take the last checkpoint so fast after taking any other checkpoint : they are all to far. It looks like they didn't play the same map, even though a cut is possible, but it gives totally different checkpoints as the third record shows it.

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