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tm2:riolu wrote:

Dedi 1 on this track probably not legit. First checkpoint is just too fast considering that you have to turn around there and do a overwall cut after it.
UID K27AW3HYV47qqqXentunIoUERu8

http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 5525#p5525
However, I'm open to further discussion why the entry is / may be cheated.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Fairly new account + dedi1 on Nadeo + a bit weird sectors + only 4 entries. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to say that's a bit odd. I mean, these maps are hunted/played since they exist so a sudden record like this would require an immediate replay.

Yeah, but 'a bit odd' isn't enough for deletion, and we're not going to see a replay for a 2014 entry. His 2015-08-22 entries don't look evidently cheated, either.

So, anyone got additional insights?

tm2:riolu wrote:

The first sector is just too fast. If you have a look at the current WR on this track, you can see that people slow down much before the checkpoint to turn around. Such a fast checkpoint would require a very late turn-around, resulting in massive time loss. "el-musti" for example, who has a CP 0.02 faster than Dedi 1, ended up being 0.3 behind the WR in the finish.

This is helpful. Ok, housekeeping performed.

tm2:riolu wrote:

Also, someone who's able to set such times on a track which is hunted so often and where certain game knowledge is needed, would for sure upload his replay on TMX.

Yeah, in my dreams too.

tm2:riolu wrote:

The possibility is very low that someone sets such a good time on a Nadeo track and doesn't even know about TMX/refuses to upload his replay for certain reasons.

Well, in reality, lots of good players do legit runs (e.g. with new cuts) yet their replays don't appear on TMX. I know, because I fruitlessly check for them every time my scans detect a really unusual run.

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Record by pouetepouete is cheated. Impossible first sector.

Fixed login.

Last edited by tm2:vrbnjak (2016-01-02 15:43:03)

My mistake. pouetepouete is the correct login

jorgono wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=hXrqMG1geLkF_5ATJJNiBvPnnjf&Show=RECORDS

Record by pouetepouete is cheated. Impossible first sector.

Agreed, and on three other tracks too.  Banned and all deleted, thanks.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

I don't know what you're seeing, but he has a 7.09 cp, which is nothing out of the normal. And Shock is also a very good driver.

And I don't know who Shock is or what the relation to pouetepouete is, but the latter did 6.96 on that first sector. So it sounds like it's you who wasn't seeing things right.

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Record by filip57888 is weird. Has a super-fast sector.

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

Up to you whether this is legit or not, but the cps and this time on a pretty often played map is very suspicious.
Login: mkawda_a3lia

jorgono wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=Y23W7aVo5V4rCxTWgei1omgTMRl&Show=RECORDS
Record by filip57888 is weird. Has a super-fast sector.

Agreed.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

Don't forget:
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That 3rd sector is only 0.05 faster than some other entries.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

UyyC6Ay43EWjzDqqo4fH36XF_Oi (completely messed up sectors)

That one's so weird it might as well be a storage glitch.

I found 129V7KN63MMaSHGqy1rkr3Nro8k (sector 2 in 3.90), RyryLPs1aJj1xpMgqkMRdZLnBNe (sector 1 in 11.48) and jJTIhFLt8BL7PkEEx5U5Topq3o6 (in 9.04) more problematic. Altogether enough reason for ban/deletion. Thanks.

tm2:vrbnjak wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=Gr1eDqdR5b_gEIZ2mWwGbRmXPxl&Show=RECORDS

1st one cheated, no cps, but I looked for cuts and no way you can do anything.

Yeah, and at least 7 others too. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

Login: kelmard
3 entries, all obviously cheated.

xymph wrote:

I could use a few quiet days again.

Yeeeeeeah, sorry about that.

xymph wrote:

Sure you are... not.

Well, in that case...

UID: DqUTrllYP1BVyBxOxyckPkn0Mrj
Login: nitro64000
Login: lord_stig (one-timer)
The 4.34 sector is 0.3 seconds faster than dedi 15, which is yet 0.26 faster from where normal sectors like 4.90+ start.

UID: G4cE1Jt7qvQrDEFleXHQ5EYcK03
Login: streetkingssmanu (one-dayer)
Other records were cheater aswell.

UID: zxQm0F3aLEJ5M60CYZkvFV1UHvh
Login: obciagacz5000 (one-dayer)
Also all his others are cheated.

UID: Qy8jw_LMxoyXDkKM0jlZJMoCDo8
Login: zeekland (one-timer)

UID: ayaksOTfx9cX1FwcXh12SeGMmje
Login: martinlp22
Last 2 sectors suddenly get weird.

UID: f01F8uVsAb8743u6Fjb6xz01Ju3
Login: tangagt (one-timer)

Please don't kill me.

UID: 23wysPUiV6vFgJoy5AkD7X50Ukh
Login: biran123123
Only 1 entry and it's 1st.