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#625 2012-03-09 09:14:17

Xymph
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Re: Wrong records

nia-nia_nia-nia-nia wrote:

this record:

45674535    TMU    jurk87    00:12.71    TAttack    2 HARD 4 NOOBS    kaioprotos    XASECO-1.14    2012-03-04 11:10:07    12710

currently #15 in this list:
http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … how=RECORD

Right, and a bunch more throughout the past two weeks. Banned and all deleted, thanks.

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#626 2012-03-09 21:51:48

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Re: Wrong records

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#627 2012-03-09 23:39:03

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Re: Wrong records

trackmanieur wrote:

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main.aspx?action=trackshow&id=1958177

dedi 1&2 cheat

A TMX link requires me to go there, download the track or a replay, extract its UID, and then use that on the tmstats site. In future reports, please provide the tmstats link directly. Thanks.

Anyway, housekeeping performed.

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#628 2012-03-10 16:15:15

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Re: Wrong records

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
TA, dedi 1
sorry, but im not really sure if this is cheated or not, the guy is a really good player, but still. cp1 and 2 seem ok, but from 3 on its just godspeed, not an expert, so idk
login: indy_air

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
heres another similar rec from someone else
TA, dedi 26
another insane cp1 time, no other dedi has come close
login: luke_filewalker

Last edited by tk_v2 (2012-03-10 16:37:23)

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#629 2012-03-11 12:40:08

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Re: Wrong records

tk_v2 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=dSMWR8DFJEIOa7zZWTwkDQr2Xad&Show=RECORDS
TA, dedi 1
sorry, but im not really sure if this is cheated or not, the guy is a really good player, but still. cp1 and 2 seem ok, but from 3 on its just godspeed, not an expert, so idk
login: indy_air

Read this: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … =auto#auto
Speedbugs, yeah, happens with very bad connection, usually you get Invalid time message but he didnt (standing to his words). In any case, that rec is not 100%legit

tk_v2 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=mk0BLhzDvoeEE1tC7TKj8uvcAK4&Show=RECORDS
heres another similar rec from someone else
TA, dedi 26
another insane cp1 time, no other dedi has come close
login: luke_filewalker

Well it's 'only' 0.08 faster than ankmach's first cp, let Xymph do his good scans ^^ (I checked a few records made around that day and none was really suspect)

Cheeerss

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#630 2012-03-11 12:59:17

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Re: Wrong records

ok, thanks smile my connection really sucks, but ive never had that problem before, now i know smile
in case of this bug is it possible that the other guy had the same one?

thanks again for the info

since its the same server, you mind taking a look at this one too?

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
TA dedi 1 starts at cp4 gains .3 out of nowhere
login: matrixi

Last edited by tk_v2 (2012-03-11 18:42:59)

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#631 2012-03-11 20:54:13

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Re: Wrong records

enryx13 wrote:

tk_v2 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=dSMWR8DFJEIOa7zZWTwkDQr2Xad&Show=RECORDS
TA, dedi 1
sorry, but im not really sure if this is cheated or not, the guy is a really good player, but still. cp1 and 2 seem ok, but from 3 on its just godspeed, not an expert, so idk
login: indy_air

Read this: http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … =auto#auto
Speedbugs, yeah, happens with very bad connection, usually you get Invalid time message but he didnt (standing to his words). In any case, that rec is not 100%legit

Thanks for digging up that link, record deleted with no further consequences.

enryx13 wrote:

tk_v2 wrote:

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Uid=mk0BLhzDvoeEE1tC7TKj8uvcAK4&Show=RECORDS
heres another similar rec from someone else
TA, dedi 26
another insane cp1 time, no other dedi has come close
login: luke_filewalker

Well it's 'only' 0.08 faster than ankmach's first cp, let Xymph do his good scans ^^ (I checked a few records made around that day and none was really suspect)

This login made one clearly cheated entry on Green MetaL on 2012/01/12, plus a number of subtly weird/impossible entries (including the above one) in the following weeks. It took way too much time to verify it all, but in the end I decided on a ban and deleted all his recs. Plus the investigation turned up another subtle cheater as a side-effect. :) Thanks for the report.

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#632 2012-03-11 20:55:19

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Re: Wrong records

tk_v2 wrote:

since its the same server, you mind taking a look at this one too?

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
TA dedi 1 starts at cp4 gains .3 out of nowhere
login: matrixi

I don't see anything particularly unusual by this login.

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#633 2012-03-12 22:12:40

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Re: Wrong records

IZkr2y_eSXuLJi2QRyDMjBMZ9F5 track tmx dedi

TA 6.90 by mike_und_lukas

He seems to be the author of the track. But you can barely make it to the ramp in that time, let alone finish.

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#634 2012-03-13 15:54:47

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Re: Wrong records

skaned wrote:

IZkr2y_eSXuLJi2QRyDMjBMZ9F5 track tmx dedi

TA 6.90 by mike_und_lukas

He seems to be the author of the track. But you can barely make it to the ramp in that time, let alone finish.

Yeah, and he cheated on one other track that same day as well. Housekeeping performed, thanks.

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#635 2012-03-14 12:10:50

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#636 2012-03-14 18:30:44

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Re: Wrong records

enryx13 wrote:

http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=M1&RecOrder3=RANK-ASC&Uid=zC1zkm6R0tUPZywh2BUNOY0yiRl&Show=RECORDS

cheater top1

Agreed, and not only on that track. All cleaned up now, thanks.

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#637 2012-03-26 19:09:03

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Re: Wrong records

Login: binford_6100_

Maps: R6E0IMW8R3mdctGsjuH2gLM7eqk,
          7VviwfWHyXRM1RNQbKwTlbadpq4
this times impossible

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#638 2012-03-26 19:57:33

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

Login: binford_6100_

Maps: R6E0IMW8R3mdctGsjuH2gLM7eqk
          7VviwfWHyXRM1RNQbKwTlbadpq4
this times impossible

Yep, all recs deleted. Thanks for the heads-up.

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#639 2012-04-03 01:06:36

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Re: Wrong records

Login: nem.arn

Maps:
JHMnmLi9UZ9QRZuIik5J0ODqNfh

Impossible Time(s)

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#640 2012-04-03 07:52:17

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

Login: nem.arn

Maps:
JHMnmLi9UZ9QRZuIik5J0ODqNfh

http://dedimania.net/SITE/forum/viewtop … 2693#p2693

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#641 2012-04-08 15:44:10

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Re: Wrong records

Hi,

login: paterpaul1
ID : I0jKgM_wWDlzGRwio6cW0Avp7Dk   first CP not possible
ID : Fkudrs3ZoIHvtQDO2cK4rFxzeol
ID : qEVB9SIblMCSixiGvsmCmUTgopi    2. Cp very suspekt
ID : ykKZAuMinb_ThTS3AuFL_ux1A5k 
ID : jlJdxat9i9bYAjfLWKOvgCQwzwl
ID : GZCo_d4BBk1phZ5YEYh1EyfKoM4
ID : wFynIyRsqpBxwAqg2L6vD0Mt7Fd   2. and 3. cp time??? and than this end time ???
ID : Wl9wjU4EMkPrVFeHAoKARoH1lx7
ID : EKpSPG5Nyqs0F4YODh_QPokIerc   first dedi and his dedi(4.) check cp time

i think all times cheat wink

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#642 2012-04-09 10:43:17

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Re: Wrong records

bloodsures453 wrote:

login: paterpaul1

Thanks for the detailed report, banned and all his recs deleted.

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#643 2012-04-11 16:49:36

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Re: Wrong records

Hi again^^

found this suspect rec : Login: dropsi

ID: nk_8sZejOkghSJi0U1G8Nr_VQJ7

I cant see a replay wink what do you think ?

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#644 2012-04-11 20:31:18

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Re: Wrong records

bloodsures453 wrote:

found this suspect rec : Login: dropsi

ID: nk_8sZejOkghSJi0U1G8Nr_VQJ7

I cant see a replay wink what do you think ?

I think dropsi got very lucky there, but generally he's also known as a very good player. It would indeed be helpful if he'd upload the replay though, as he's done with other "lucky" recs.

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#645 2012-04-12 09:31:49

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Re: Wrong records

hi wink
I do not know what the problem is. You quench times from 0:01 to 0:03 riders who are faster. I'm not the best driver but other drivers when writing purely to their contribution to their recorde were 0:01 to 0:03 outbid these times deleted or they come on the black list. I have been following the posts for some time. not take it personally. But where is the justice? when the other driver this time you delete  this time. is this fair play? ok, when he has a replay, than is ok;)

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#646 2012-04-12 19:35:01

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Re: Wrong records

bloodsures453 wrote:

But where is the justice? when the other driver this time you delete  this time. is this fair play?

Because with dropsi we've been through this before.

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#647 2012-04-15 12:00:25

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boerta87
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Re: Wrong records

xymph wrote:

bloodsures453 wrote:

found this suspect rec : Login: dropsi

ID: nk_8sZejOkghSJi0U1G8Nr_VQJ7

I cant see a replay wink what do you think ?

I think dropsi got very lucky there, but generally he's also known as a very good player. It would indeed be helpful if he'd upload the replay though, as he's done with other "lucky" recs.

Hey there i asked him but as i expected he cant find it anymore. he did this record almost a year ago. He got a new pc since a few month and didnt save his replays so its gone. hes said hes gonna try it again but he also said that was a pretty lucky landing at the beginning so we will see .


greetz

Boerta

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#648 2012-04-16 15:28:34

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Re: Wrong records

hey,

dedi 1 got weird cp time

login:kissio (i think)

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 45076#auto


greetz

boerta

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#649 2012-04-18 22:25:22

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Re: Wrong records

Hey,
found a track, where Top 13 is wrong.
Maybe an Aseco-Bug
Ubu02mols8m9j5BbHIOeL4o6qdh
There is no way to get 6 seconds on this track and the 13 records are all from same date.
Or what do you think?
sick ;-)

Last edited by sick_castrator (2012-04-18 22:25:35)

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#650 2012-04-19 21:37:51

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Re: Wrong records

Next Rec: bnqlo1_2NirRYCJlAgXsDSzhKU0
zakbam123
One and only dedi-rec from this login, and no nickname
time seems impossible

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