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#391 2011-08-23 21:40:10

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Re: Wrong records

Hey,
I spoke to dropsi, he was a clanmate since yesterday sad (that´s not the topic^^)
But we´re good friends, so he sent me a replay: http://www.file-upload.net/download-368 … y.gbx.html
rus_mischa is in our lol-genre too and a very big freak ;-)
So no cheat, see you
@xymph: nickname-update? big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

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#392 2011-08-23 22:36:49

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Re: Wrong records

hi
ok ^^

und was ist hier mit ?? sehr fragwürdig

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 19442#auto

bitte replay von rus_mischa. nur er hat nie ein replay......... sehr merkwürdig.....

grüsse

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#393 2011-08-24 00:01:21

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

But we´re good friends, so he sent me a replay: http://www.file-upload.net/download-368 … y.gbx.html

Okay, looks fine, thanks for clearing that up.

sick_castrator wrote:

@xymph: nickname-update?

I asked Slig twice about it, no response. I give up, you can ask him directly.

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#394 2011-08-24 00:26:43

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Re: Wrong records

devil-93 wrote:

hi
ok ^^

und was ist hier mit ?? sehr fragwürdig

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 19442#auto

bitte replay von rus_mischa. nur er hat nie ein replay......... sehr merkwürdig.....

grüsse

sucxces upload his record on tmx

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 19442#auto

smile

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#395 2011-08-24 00:51:14

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Re: Wrong records

devil-93 wrote:

hi
ok ^^

und was ist hier mit ?? sehr fragwürdig

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 19442#auto

bitte replay von rus_mischa. nur er hat nie ein replay......... sehr merkwürdig.....

grüsse

hey there

i dont know what ur problem is?!?!

i agree with xymph that ur talking here isnt helping at all.

rus_mischa already uploaded his replay if u watch it u can see that he cutted this map.
and btw look on his tmx page ur saying he never got any replays^^ 12 pages of replays on his tmx site

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 75489#auto

and yes its true dropsi and rus_mischa got admin rights on my server( dont know what is so suspicous about that?!?!)
both can proof all his records with replays .

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#396 2011-08-24 14:04:25

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Re: Wrong records

devil-93 wrote:

hi nochmal^^

rus_ misch und dropsi  sind admin auf dem boerta1 server

sehr sehr suspect.....

i´m admin there too
do i cheat?^^
for other replays from dropsi or rus_mischa just aks me, boerta or shadowdash ;-)
they don´t cheat!

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#397 2011-08-24 23:03:39

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

sucxces upload his record on tmx

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 19442#auto

Thanks, that clears that up as well. Actually, I vaguely expected a cut in that area of the track indeed.

devil-93, while it's commendable that you keep an eye out for possible cheaters, you need to keep in mind that only sufficient and convincing evidence matters. Until then, players can be suspects, nothing more.  Even then it's possible to make mistakes in judging that evidence, but if that happens at least it's me making them. smile

I've waited until the end of this evening to give you the opportunity to think of it yourself, but given your public accusations against dropsi and rus_mischa, it would be only... fair wink if you'd publicly apologize as well.

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#398 2011-08-25 01:42:32

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Re: Wrong records

Hello can you delete all the records of login: papiru   
nickname: Energycow ,look his records up and you will see cheated them.
On very short 36 12.03 is already a myth let stand 11.97 lol.. then you must go drive thrue the walls..
Thanks.

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#399 2011-08-25 07:53:22

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Hello can you delete all the records of login: papiru   
nickname: Energycow ,look his records up and you will see cheated them.

Yup, banned and cleaned up. Thanks for the heads-up.

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#400 2011-08-25 08:31:13

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Re: Wrong records

Hi,
uid : u42sJ4pkUtwu5pHQPUWghVnue42
Dedi 2 and 3 are the same player, can you delete one of them ?
Thanks.

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#401 2011-08-25 14:48:16

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Re: Wrong records

Also delete all records of login: pingo.doce

Nickname: Pingodoce , he seems doing the same was as Energycow trying to get records that are believe'ble,
to bad he failed hard at Very short 47 of hazaart and many more tracks.

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#402 2011-08-25 17:30:49

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Re: Wrong records

mirque330 wrote:

uid : u42sJ4pkUtwu5pHQPUWghVnue42
Dedi 2 and 3 are the same player, can you delete one of them ?

Neither login nor nick look the same or similar enough to me. And as mentioned before on this forum, while there might be many such cases, I'm don't have time for that.

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#403 2011-08-25 17:40:42

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Also delete all records of login: pingo.doce

I'd appreciate it if you could formulate your reports as a suggestion or question, not an order.

e-thug wrote:

Nickname: Pingodoce , he seems doing the same was as Energycow trying to get records that are believe'ble,
to bad he failed hard at Very short 47 of hazaart and many more tracks.

Right, subtle but obvious cheater. Banned etc.

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#404 2011-08-27 10:45:25

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Re: Wrong records

hi all

kaplov said:

"Login "crank-master" : possibly "forceair"s new login, I'll keep an eye on him."

we recogniced this guy on this track:

2kxaapjpH8mCIK2FdG0wkVyhonl

it was on forceairs server also.

but if it was domoll (forceair) cheating he is very lazy. only 6 times dedi 1. smile

regards glasi

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#405 2011-08-28 00:59:01

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Re: Wrong records

Could you delete all records off logins: 30125 & teurer_sprit

They both cheated on very short 64 of hazaart ^^

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#406 2011-08-28 12:25:21

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Could you delete all records off logins: 30125 & teurer_sprit

They both cheated on very short 64 of hazaart ^^

And not only on that one. Both banned and all their recs deleted.

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#407 2011-08-28 12:28:57

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Re: Wrong records

glasi66 wrote:

kaplov said:
"Login "crank-master" : possibly "forceair"s new login, I'll keep an eye on him."

we recogniced this guy on this track:

2kxaapjpH8mCIK2FdG0wkVyhonl

it was on forceairs server also.

Well, tracks can be everywhere, so that doesn't prove anything.

glasi66 wrote:

but if it was domoll (forceair) cheating he is very lazy. only 6 times dedi 1.

So maybe it isn't him. Or he's testing the waters. We'll see...

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#408 2011-08-28 20:12:08

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Re: Wrong records

Could you delete all records of login dedi_wrapper <- impossibpe cps+time at very short 68 by hazaart.

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#409 2011-08-28 23:01:28

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Could you delete all records of login dedi_wrapper <- impossibpe cps+time at very short 68 by hazaart.

Uhm, no, you still don't get it. wink

What you can do is report suspect records and logins, and request that I investigate. If I agree I'll delete a record, and if a login has cheated more than a few times, ban it and delete many/all his records. But that's my decision. One suspect entry (and I'm not sure the above time is cheated) is no grounds to delete all of someone's records. As we've seen with dropsi and rus_mischa, false accusations are easy to make while really skilled players may know ways to improve times that I, you or others don't know.

The only really suspect entries I've found for dedi_wrapper are the second sector (7.72) on 25V5c0zEJsEt1z09sAt0At8APFg, and the first CP (7.76) on uk5NmIKbeYHv6KQDQ28Gm7D3el7, but the latter isn't on TMX (nor on the server where the recs were driven) so I can't verify that one.

Let me know if you find other suspect entries, then I can look further.

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#410 2011-08-29 17:52:50

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Re: Wrong records

Oke im sorry didnt want to be an wanabe banhammer just the fact I hate cheaters and want to report them all to you, again about this track TMX id: 192130

He got .45 cp which is not even near possible my pb cp after hunting the track is .49 which is probably the max cp.. remember its a fullspeed track and that .45 cp is very impossible I also checked other dedis of him and he doesnt look like a cheater which suprised me that he cheated on that track or maybe bug? I am a experienced player which knows what possible is on cps at short fullspeed tracks (8secs), please try to play this track and reply me thanks.

Also I check all cps of top 30 dedi and max there was .50 so..

Regards

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#411 2011-08-29 18:37:58

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Oke im sorry didnt want to be an wanabe banhammer just the fact I hate cheaters and want to report them all to you, again about this track TMX id: 192130

Links like these are the most useful: http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS

e-thug wrote:

He got .45 cp which is not even near possible my pb cp after hunting the track is .49 which is probably the max cp.. remember its a fullspeed track and that .45 cp is very impossible I also checked other dedis of him and he doesnt look like a cheater which suprised me that he cheated on that track or maybe bug? I am a experienced player which knows what possible is on cps at short fullspeed tracks (8secs), please try to play this track and reply me thanks.

Also I check all cps of top 30 dedi and max there was .50 so..

Dedi #10 has 5.48 on the first CP, five others in the top-30 have 5.49. So yes, 5.45 seems implausible, but I'm not a very experienced player (no time left after cheater hunting... roll) so I am not sure whether it's impossible. That's why I always require more than a few clearly cheated entries before banning someone.

If other experienced players have input on the above track, or on other possibly suspect entries by dedi_wrapper, let's hear it.

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#412 2011-08-29 22:07:15

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Re: Wrong records

I get myself after some time a .50 too and so a .49 or .48 are definetly possible, but .45 is very strange...

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#413 2011-08-29 22:31:23

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Re: Wrong records

My pb is now .48 noway it canT be done better.. sorry but I think you know yourself .45 aint possible ^^

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#414 2011-09-01 08:14:11

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Re: Wrong records

hey

here is a impossible record. login:fabien49430

v8a_Jj1o9TQK1oY0KMQDGk2F05c

checked his stats dont look like a cheater but this time isnt possible^^

maybe a bug or sth like that

greetz

boerta

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#415 2011-09-01 09:59:49

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

here is a impossible record. login:fabien49430

v8a_Jj1o9TQK1oY0KMQDGk2F05c

Deleted, thanks.

boerta87 wrote:

checked his stats dont look like a cheater but this time isnt possible^^

I'm considering it a one-timer.

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#416 2011-09-01 17:25:15

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Re: Wrong records

hey

maybe forceair, domol1122 is back^^

login:ger_mischa

now hes faking the login of rus_mischa^^ anyway i looked on his stats some of the maps are maps where domol1122 got first record too^^
maybe he is it maybe not:D dont know yet

for example^^ http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ;Limit=400

http://dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ;Limit=400

greetz

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