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#1 2011-02-24 22:25:09

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superstar14
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banned but don t know why

hi all

I've just discovered I'm on the dedimania blacklist ! I can't understand why because I never cheated, and never will. Could you telle me what happened please ?

and if there are a french people here ?  parce que mon anglais et un peu pourri lol  ( bad english sorry )


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ah my login: superstar14 game: TMO TMN TMNF

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#2 2011-02-24 23:34:37

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Re: banned but don t know why

superstar14 wrote:

Could you telle me what happened please ?

You cheated on tracks Shorty 28 and Tor's Stunt #20, and got a warning, then cheated the next day on »Very Short Marc and Mini #10, and got banned.

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#3 2011-02-25 09:05:41

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Re: banned but don t know why

lol I got a warning ??? NOOO you must send a e-mail,  it's a friend who says I am blacklist, because I didn't know I'am banned O_O
  and I don't hack checkpoint or other hack,  Can you give me the time of maps  please ? I have just 1 or 2 dedi1  not 4 !!!  I must play ESL in a few time..

(sry for english crap)

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#4 2011-02-25 20:50:43

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Re: banned but don t know why

superstar14 wrote:

lol I got a warning ??? NOOO you must send a e-mail,

We don't work for Nadeo, Dedimania is a community-developed system. So we don't have anyone's email address.

superstar14 wrote:

Can you give me the time of maps  please ? I have just 1 or 2 dedi1  not 4 !

The times were impossible for the pertaining tracks, but it's too time-consuming to look them up. And you had a bunch more top-30 entries with your TMNF account, but those were deleted too of course. I didn't touch the classic TMN entries as I wasn't sure they belong to the same person, and cheating doesn't really happen in that game anyway (AFAIK).

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#5 2011-02-25 20:59:38

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Re: banned but don t know why

Sorry to step in, but i've been knowing superstar for a long time, I know he's a very good driver, but I'm very surprised to see him banned from dedibase, because he really doesn't seem to be a cheater.
I mean, usually cheaters are 10 or 15 seconds away from the others, and he is hundredths of second in front...

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#6 2011-02-25 23:08:04

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Re: banned but don t know why

shit,  ok can you see IP adress ?

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#7 2011-02-26 09:36:53

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Re: banned but don t know why

ths124 wrote:

I mean, usually cheaters are 10 or 15 seconds away from the others, and he is hundredths of second in front...

On the four tracks mentioned, his entry was a second+ faster at the first checkpoint than any other entries, which is the typical checkpoint pattern of cheaters.

superstar14 wrote:

shit,  ok can you see IP adress ?

For privacy reasons, IP addresses are not submitted to (and therefore not stored on) the Dedimania master server.

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#8 2011-03-01 19:05:41

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Re: banned but don t know why

Sorry to insist, but i feel concerned because the times you mentioned were made on my team's server.

On Shorty 28, superstar's got local 2 with 27.70, dedi 1 is 27.77
On Tor's Stunt #20, he got local 1 with 10.45, dedi 1 is 10.56
On Very Short Marc, he got local 1 with 13.79, dedi 1 is 13.82
On Mini #10 he got local 1 with 11.59, dedi 1 is 11.76.

How on hell can you say he is a second + faster than others ? Moreover, Tor's Stunt #20 is a map with no CP, only a start and finish...

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#9 2011-03-01 21:09:35

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ths124 wrote:

How on hell can you say he is a second + faster than others ?

You overlooked the essential phrase "at the first checkpoint". Use /sectms (in XAseco v1.12; if you're not running that yet you need to upgrade anyway) to see them/compare with other recs.

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#10 2011-03-01 22:15:49

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Re: banned but don t know why

I know that, but how can it be that he would be 1 sec+ faster than others on 1st cp, and only a few hundredths at finish, on maps that have only one or 2 cps, and no cp for one of them (though you said he was 1 sec in advance on 1st cp on ALL of them, which is impossible)
I'm really terribly sorry, but I see some incoherence.

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#11 2011-03-01 23:34:14

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Re: banned but don t know why

ths124 wrote:

I know that, but how can it be that he would be 1 sec+ faster than others on 1st cp,

By cheating...

ths124 wrote:

and only a few hundredths at finish, on maps that have only one or 2 cps,

...and then driving the rest of the track sloppily/slowly enough to end up just in front of the non-cheating recs. Too big a gap would have made it too obvious the entry was cheated. It's happened thousands of times already. roll

ths124 wrote:

and no cp for one of them (though you said he was 1 sec in advance on 1st cp on ALL of them, which is impossible)

I generalized the cheating pattern as I don't want to go into too much detail, or others might get bad ideas...

On Tor's Stunt #20, if superstar14 had 10.45 (don't remember, just going by your list), and the current top-30 on Dedimania consists of 10.56 for #1 and 10.57-10.58 for the rest (with the TMX #1 being 10.60), then a 0.11s lead on such tight track is very suspicious, if not outright cheated. But it's just another nail in the coffin sealed by the other three tracks that do have an intermediate checkpoint.

ths124 wrote:

I'm really terribly sorry, but I see some incoherence.

No, you're just nitpicking. wink

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#12 2011-07-19 13:47:00

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Re: banned but don t know why

I don't understant why when i make a dedi de is not registred on the dedimania

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#13 2011-07-19 20:20:21

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fabio66665 wrote:

I don't understant why when i make a dedi de is not registred on the dedimania

http://www.tm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f … 65#p194936

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#14 2011-07-22 14:06:53

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Re: banned but don t know why

Ah ok,

I have an explication, another player played with my account (i have change my password now)

I am 37 years old and i play for fun, how can i be debanned please? I blacklist cheaters when there is one on my servers, i hate cheat, when i make a dedi (it's rare), i make it regulary

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#15 2011-07-22 19:18:24

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Re: banned but don t know why

fabio66665 wrote:

I have an explication, another player played with my account (i have change my password now)

Always an incredibly stupid idea to allow that. roll

fabio66665 wrote:

I am 37 years old and i play for fun, how can i be debanned please? I blacklist cheaters when there is one on my servers, i hate cheat, when i make a dedi (it's rare), i make it regulary

Follow these instructions to get unbanned.

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