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#339 2011-07-15 21:28:57

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Re: Wrong records

xymph wrote:

sick_castrator wrote:

edit2: another one big_smile
ycQIJnommMVmT_dCXT7bWwUQ2Rm
elpaso7

elpaso7's Rounds mode entry is fine. There was a cheated TA rec by another player, which was detected by the daily scans and I deleted it earlier today. Perhaps you confused those two.

Oh, yes, sorry wink

to domol1122:
http://www.dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
this one ok? smile
found another one, today at 16:37:
FYfCYdeuTxleQvemrbPCmgG9HTe

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#340 2011-07-15 22:17:35

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

to domol1122:
http://www.dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
this one ok?

Not a tight track either.

sick_castrator wrote:

found another one, today at 16:37:
FYfCYdeuTxleQvemrbPCmgG9HTe

Nothing wrong with that checkpoint pattern.

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#341 2011-07-20 01:58:56

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Re: Wrong records

Hello on the track very short *185* of dodo. the number 1 dedi is cheater.

thanks

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#342 2011-07-20 03:35:30

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Re: Wrong records

^hey

u posted this map already but nobody did sth against it!

MSg2fYxTvkCdaRT6gpdQQ1xYQBl

8.55 by domol1122??????

1. and 2. TMX are 8.60 and i watch it!! its nearly perfect maybe ,59 works thats it! not ,55


seriously i dont belive him and looks like ca.80% of his records got no or max. 1 cp (didnt count it)

anyway i dont care anymore hes cheaten or hes freakin superman idk.

he came on my server too but he didnt play he just insulted us!

greetz

ps i tried a few maps where domol1122 got tmx uploaded this times are beatable but a little point makes me sure that is forceair^^ on one map tmx uploaded forceair=kingvader and domol1122=kingdiablo and both use the same skin in all replays . TreGhC8PHIh5C6i9oTOm0LcrDd8
as i said he just put crappy recs online !

EDIT: this record of him is insane especially his cp (9,92)!!! best in dedis 10,06
GFKe9df5XoErdU6fm4FmdVfaogd

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 18318#auto

Last edited by boerta87 (2011-07-21 11:10:29)

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#343 2011-07-20 09:09:05

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Re: Wrong records

e-thug wrote:

Hello on the track very short *185* of dodo. the number 1 dedi is cheater.

Too little information. Please include track UID and/or link to its tmstats page and/or login of the suspected cheater in all reports.

Edit: Found it as yet: http://dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=stat&a … ow=RECORDS
This is the kind of link that helps find tracks fast.

Anyway, time is bogus indeed, but it's hard to tell whether it's cheated due to the design error of not including any checkpoints. Time deleted.

Last edited by xymph (2011-07-20 20:50:10)

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#344 2011-07-22 09:59:48

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Re: Wrong records

xymph wrote:

Okay, here's a strong candidate: MSg2fYxTvkCdaRT6gpdQQ1xYQBl done in 8.55, while Dedi #2-#30 are 8.60-8.64, and TMX #1 is also 8.60. And on the server where this 8.55 was driven (de_lol_server), there is already a 8.55 entry by lol_fahrer123, a confirmed and banned cheater.
kaplovh, what do you think?

Yes, I know this track. I have played several times on different servers and have noticed that every best local runs (except cheated ones) revolve around 8.6x. (mine is 8.64)
The other clue is that this record is the last one of the bunch made on July 13 and less than 5 minutes after WlFq7gYBloMwu0BU3JCeDRKktlc (LolZone01) while the other time intervals on that day are around 10-20 minutes.
As boerta87 said, perfect run could be around 8.59,8.58 even with a "closed-eye and play" type luck...
That time is clearly unlikely imo...

boerta87 wrote:

ps i tried a few maps where domol1122 got tmx uploaded this times are beatable but a little point makes me sure that is forceair^^ on one map tmx uploaded forceair=kingvader and domol1122=kingdiablo and both use the same skin in all replays .

Domol is forceair. I recognise some tracks where forceair cheated on before : the ones that was run on "BlackVader2000" or "gericom" servers and the ones where forceair was targetting my records or other players' (julian111222, LOL-MIX players, etc).
I tried to play on all the track on TMX where he submitted his records (16 actually) and managed to beat him on nearly every one. Many of them got more than 1 checkpoint too...

boerta87 wrote:

EDIT: this record of him is insane especially his cp (9,92)!!! best in dedis 10,06
GFKe9df5XoErdU6fm4FmdVfaogd

I tested it. But I can't tell whether the CP is cheated. That flip on the beginning is just for luckers...

Something else to add : on the track FODt5tA18u1xf1xhRCNNeKmy6Jf : The second CP is very suspect (others have 8.8x) and the overall time is too far from dedi #2. Imo, it's unlikely that he can beat the other champions (demonality, lucianos_racing, xaminou, etc) so easily.

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#345 2011-07-22 15:47:44

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Re: Wrong records

boerta87 wrote:

EDIT: this record of him is insane especially his cp (9,92)!!! best in dedis 10,06
GFKe9df5XoErdU6fm4FmdVfaogd
I tested it. But I can't tell whether the CP is cheated. That flip on the beginning is just for luckers...

at first i thought its is lucky too but after a few tries i got how it works and actually isn that lucky^^

i tried this one alot and the best cp i could get is 10,06 maybe 10,00 or sth like that is possible but i dont think that 9,92 is possible-.-

i uploaded my replay on tmx

http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … 18318#auto

Last edited by boerta87 (2011-07-22 15:56:30)

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#346 2011-07-22 20:16:41

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Re: Wrong records

Okay, thanks to kaplovh and boerta87 for your input, it's time to set things into motion again.

I banned domol1122 from Dedi (not blacklisted yet, as that's less easily reversed), and deleted those times on MSg2fYxTvkCdaRT6gpdQQ1xYQBl , FODt5tA18u1xf1xhRCNNeKmy6Jf and GFKe9df5XoErdU6fm4FmdVfaogd .

Let's wait and see what happens next, and please keep an eye out for alternate logins.

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#347 2011-07-27 17:28:21

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Re: Wrong records

xymph wrote:

Okay, thanks to kaplovh and boerta87 for your input, it's time to set things into motion again.

I banned domol1122 from Dedi (not blacklisted yet, as that's less easily reversed), and deleted those times on MSg2fYxTvkCdaRT6gpdQQ1xYQBl , FODt5tA18u1xf1xhRCNNeKmy6Jf and GFKe9df5XoErdU6fm4FmdVfaogd .

Let's wait and see what happens next, and please keep an eye out for alternate logins.

u gonna delete his records?? or ur waitng for any response of him?

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#348 2011-07-29 23:41:44

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Re: Wrong records

suspicious 1st record here in TA mode: 0h5jV3BnHd9Hnj5vH8tVRByAQIh
and he has many more strange 1st dedis

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#349 2011-07-30 00:24:33

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Re: Wrong records

brainsmack wrote:

suspicious 1st record here in TA mode: 0h5jV3BnHd9Hnj5vH8tVRByAQIh
and he has many more strange 1st dedis

domol1122 has been the subject of quite some discussion in this thread already. Deleted that entry. If you have more proof, share it.

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#350 2011-07-30 01:46:54

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Re: Wrong records

t8mlSgX5dl98jjwvevS7VuafaZl
this one is very stange too
spoke with jigsaw (2nd dedi) and he said he drove hours for the .78
PS: can you explain me why there are 50 dedis (and 2 dedi #50 and no dedi #46^^)
PS2:did slig answer to my question about update the nickname?

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#351 2011-07-30 15:31:28

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

t8mlSgX5dl98jjwvevS7VuafaZl
this one is very stange too
spoke with jigsaw (2nd dedi) and he said he drove hours for the .78

That one struck me too, was waiting for someone to confirm it. Deleted. Any others?

sick_castrator wrote:

PS: can you explain me why there are 50 dedis (and 2 dedi #50 and no dedi #46^^)

The list needed reranking. And some tracks have more than 30 recs per mode, it's part of an experimental donation system.

sick_castrator wrote:

PS2:did slig answer to my question about update the nickname?

No, guess he missed it. Slig?

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#352 2011-07-31 18:30:40

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Re: Wrong records

57u9HvNgtgmrSsyM68itmRkohp6
first dedi is cheating
login: benjou86

thx

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#353 2011-07-31 23:10:26

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Re: Wrong records

shadowdash wrote:

login: benjou86

Check the tmstats site before posting, all his recs were already deleted this morning (and login banned) after he popped up in the daily scans. wink

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#354 2011-08-07 01:13:47

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Re: Wrong records

login: odracir_vr
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
last sector is impossible
PS: anything from domol1122 a.k.a. forceair?
PS2: nickname-update? tongue

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#355 2011-08-07 16:10:42

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Re: Wrong records

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login: odracir_vr
http://www.dedimania.com/tmstats/?do=st … ow=RECORDS
last sector is impossible

It would seem so yeah. And I found two more suspect entries:
Last sector on StarStadiumA1 (fBdoqZeNGUWmQN_BtkfXjnBTv, a clone of the original) in 0.97 while everyone else does 1.02 with a rare deviation of 0.01.
And last sector of 9oN6KKegl_obTd89UyhaOoNKuZh in 1.92 while about 2.50 is needed.

All three cleaned up, plus his entire top-10 entries as punishment.

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#356 2011-08-09 18:05:43

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Re: Wrong records

new cheater
iO1xMx6GuioSn1rn9OOJckab7yj
dedi #1 nd #2

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#357 2011-08-09 22:21:51

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Re: Wrong records

sick_castrator wrote:

new cheaters
iO1xMx6GuioSn1rn9OOJckab7yj
dedi #1 and #2

Yep, both repeat offenders, both banned and all their recs deleted. Good catch. smile

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#358 2011-08-09 22:35:53

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Re: Wrong records

The first dedi on this track is cheated...

And the track on tmx... http://tmnforever.tm-exchange.com/main. … id=4161100

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#359 2011-08-10 01:04:13

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Re: Wrong records

hey

i cant understand why ur not deleting the records of domol1122. u deleted already plenty of his records which were  clearly cheated. Isnt that enough?? so ur deleting all records from other cheaters . why not his???? its really unfair he got so many records! even if they are not all cheated! still unfair -.- anyway if he would care about the ban, he had already posted sth. so its up to u^^   u can  ignore this message again or u could just delete his records (which i would prefer^^).

greetz

Boerta

Last edited by boerta87 (2011-08-10 01:10:23)

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#360 2011-08-13 08:58:48

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Re: Wrong records

hi all

here one track, where i dont undestand cps of dedi one

Iq7BknYzKS3Cfxxh_AXnCUf7zkg

maybe im wrong but xymph maybe you can check that

regards glasi

edit: this one i also cant believe:

qkJJQoZvdt54Or1KanrUrBIPuLh

Last edited by glasi66 (2011-08-13 10:03:31)

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#361 2011-08-13 11:18:09

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Re: Wrong records

glasi66 wrote:

here one track, where i dont undestand cps of dedi one

Iq7BknYzKS3Cfxxh_AXnCUf7zkg

Just another entry by domol1122.

glasi66 wrote:

edit: this one i also cant believe:

qkJJQoZvdt54Or1KanrUrBIPuLh

Seems very implausible, though not necessarily cheated. I deleted it without further consequences.


Speaking of domol1122, I know there are some impatient grasshoppers about this topic out there wink but I had no reason to rush, and the TM2 beta ate up plenty of my spare time too.

But the ban was applied three weeks ago, which is plenty time for domol1122 to come forward. That this didn't happen is another indication that domol1122 is indeed forceair, as he knows what happened last time when he claimed he wasn't cheating, but failed to produce any evidence to back that up.

So, domol1122 is now blacklisted too, and all his (700) recs deleted. Please keep an eye out for alternate logins, but no gloating comments please.

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#362 2011-08-13 11:48:48

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Re: Wrong records

thx lets see what happens^^

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#363 2011-08-13 17:10:26

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Re: Wrong records

great job^^

i bet he will come back soon^^

greetz

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#364 2011-08-15 03:42:31

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Re: Wrong records

Hello,

Track name: Very_short_69
author: Hazaart

Can clean the dedilist? We don't know which are cheaters and who not.. thanks!

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